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Post by honestbroker1 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:19 am

Dear [name deleted],

With regard to your request in relation to:

"1. Can you confirm that the cadaver dog "Eddie", formerly a police dog under
dog handler and dog instructor Martin Grime, now retired from your force, was
sent to America to be trained on human cadavers and be upgraded to "enhanced"
victim recovery dog?

2. Can you confirm that South Yorkshire Police uses, or has used, an American
device for trapping scents, a "Scent Transfer Unit" or "STU100" in the
training of its cadaver dogs?"


1. South Yorkshire Police holds information which would tend to confirm this part of your request. This information is contained within the anual Personal Development Review of retired PC GRIME for the year 2005/2006 and states at various points,

"(PC GRIMES) has deployed police dog 'Eddie' to train on human remains in the US. This training has been valuable as it is not possible to utilise human remains in the UK. A full report from the F.B.I. to document his training and operational deployments whilst in America remains pending"

"Deployments have been on a national scale and a recent visit to the F.B.I. in America has created some income generation potential in terms of training."

"Complete sponsored visit to FBI to educate on C.S.I. Dog capabilities - Achieved"

2. From enquiries I have made it would appear that South Yorkshire Police have not deployed or used a device known as a 'Scent Transfer Unit' or 'STU100' within Force either operationally or for evaluation. However the Force does hold information that would indicate that Mr GRIME, whilst serving with this Force IN 2006, did utilise such a device whilst engageD in another Force area. A section of a statement apparently made but not signed by Mr GRIME reads: -

" I developed the training of the E.V.R.D. to include the screening of scent pads taken from motor vehicles by a ST 100 Scent Tranference Unit.

The unit is designed in a two main-part design. The main body is a battery operated electrical device that draws air in at to the front and exhausts through the rear. Ther is no 're-circulation' of air within the unit. The second main part is a 'grilled' hood that fits to the main body. A sterile gauze pad is fitted into the hood. When operated the ST 100 draws air through the hood and the sterile gauze pad and exhausts through ports to the rear. 'Scent' is trapped in the gauze, which may then be stored for use within scent discrimination exercises.

The ST 100 unit is cleaned following use in such a manner that no residual scent is apparent. This is checked by control measures where the dog is allowed to search a given area where the S100 is secreted. Any response by the dog would suggest contamination. Tests have shown that the decontamination procedures are effective in this case with the dog NOT alerting to the device when completed.

Use of the ST100 is recommended when subject vehicles, property, clothing, premises are to be forensically protected from contamination by the dog, and for covert deployment. At all other times best practice would be for the dog to be given direct access.

Operational use of the STU 100 is in a developmental stage"

If you are unhappy with the way your request for information has been handled, you can request a review by following the advice contained in the separate notice attached to this correspondence:

If you remain dissatisfied with the handling of your request or complaint, you have a right to appeal to the Information Commissioner at:
The Information Commissioner's Office,
Wycliffe House,
Water Lane,
Cheshire, SK9 5AF.
Telephone: 08456 306060 or 01625 545745
Website: www.ico.gov.uk
There is no charge for making an appeal.

Yours sincerely

The follow-up quetion:

Freedom of Information Request - Reference No:20110231


[Following a response to request 20110186]

Can I ask, did that FBI report described as 'pending' turn up?


SYP did not receive a report, therefore there is `no information held'.
Points to note:

1. Wording (about the information) would tend to confirm, when it could simply say confirms.

2. "Deployment was on a national level"? Dogs from all over the country went? Why do we only hear about Edd8e?

3. In answer to my second question, again, they could have said simply "no information is held", leaving open the possibility that a report had been handed to Grime when he left the service.

But no. They are specific. A report was not received!

It is unthinkable that if an officer of a national police force and his dog had been granted leave for such specialist training, a report about it would NOT even be sent to the police force in question.

There was no training.

What IS true is that in the New Year 2006 (the period referred to in the first answer) Grime went to the US on a police-sponsored trip.
12:01AM GMT 30 Dec 2005
Keela, a 16-month-old springer spaniel, has become so accomplished a sniffer dog that she can earn more than her chief constable.

She spends most of her working life on crime scene investigations in her native south Yorkshire. But in quiet times she and her handlers, PCs Martin Grimes and John Ellis, are hired out to other forces for £530 a day plus expenses.

If she worked every day, this would add up to nearly £200,000 a year - £70,000 more than her chief constable, Med Hughes.

Keela's sense of smell is so keen that she can sniff out blood on clothes even after they have been washed repeatedly in biological powder. She can also pick out microscopic amounts of blood on weapons that have been scrubbed "clean" after an attack.

Detectives then use her initial assessment to determine the course of their investigations.

"We have been in situations where the place appears to be so clean than the scene-of- crime experts can't find any evidence," said Pc Ellis. "But we take Keela in and she will find the minutest traces of blood.

"It's not like looking for a needle in a haystack any more. We have two other dogs that will find the haystack; Keela will find the needle."

He added: "When we are called in by other forces they are obviously charged a fee. It's quite funny to think that she can earn more than the chief constable."

Pc Grimes said Keela had to be trained to alert her handler in a different way. "Normal recovery dogs will bark to signal a find, but in this case it is not appropriate," he said.

"Instead the dog will locate the contaminated area by pointing at the spot where the blood is situated. This is much more accurate."

The next step in Keela's career is an expenses-paid trip to help the FBI. "The Americans are very interested in how we work because they don't have this sort of facility," said Pc Ellis.

"At the moment they have to use civilian help. The quality can be variable so they have had their fingers burnt a few times."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews ... table.html

No reference to Eddie, but exclusive focus on Keela

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