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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by sal » Mon May 09, 2022 11:20 pm

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Post by jjbd » Tue May 10, 2022 10:49 am

Complete rubbish.

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Post by honestbroker1 » Tue May 10, 2022 11:52 am

With thanks to Swertigo Virl at UK Justice:

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/i-was-one-o ... er-1619856

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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by Pedro » Tue May 10, 2022 1:55 pm

rubbish: "I am certain that Christian Brueckner will finally be charged with the murder of Madeleine McCann".

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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by Pedro » Tue May 10, 2022 2:07 pm

I´m don´t like the fact of mwt wants fame at the expenses of an innocent child, but with I agree with:

"Christian Brueckner had nothing to do with the disappearance of the then-three-year-old Brit girl in Portugal in 2007.

He said the police probe into the case was flawed, had failed to unearth any evidence linking Brueckner to the crime and ignored his alibi.

He claimed Portuguese detectives failed to secure the crime scene and did not respond fast enough when the youngster vanished.

He said Hans Christian Wolters, the German prosecutor heading the case, who last year publicly declared he was 100% sure Brueckner murdered Madeleine, lives in a parallel universe.

"No matter how horrible and nasty a person is we have to have the evidence to prosecute,’’ Mr Williams-Thomas said.

"I am no fan of Christian Brueckner. He has committed some horrific offences.

"But that doesn’t make him the killer of Madeleine McCann unless there is the evidence to support that. And there isn’t.

"They cannot place him outside Madeleine’s apartment on the day of the disappearance and furthermore he has a credible alibi which places him away from there."

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Post by honestbroker1 » Tue May 10, 2022 7:05 pm

Here is, or ought to be, the starting point of Mark Williams Thomas' documentary, the first page of chapter 7 of Kate's book, Aftermath.

However, I have always found the third suggestion (of how Madeleine could have vanished) insulting to our intelligence. ... There was no doubt that Madeleine could not have left the apartment of her own accordl ... There was no way a three year old would have been able to raise the shutters and open the shutters in the children's room. To give any credence to the idea that Madeleine could have walked out on her own, you would have to accept that she had gone out the back way, pulling aside the sitting room curtains and drawing them again, then opening the patio door, the child safety gate at the top of the stairs on the veranda and the little gate to the road - and carefully closing all three behind her.

Obviously MVW will have the answer.

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Post by Whiterose » Wed May 11, 2022 10:45 am

MWT says - "They cannot place him outside Madeleine’s apartment on the day of the disappearance and furthermore he has a credible alibi which places him away from there. And there is evidence of non-changing behaviour.


So how come he told a girlfriend he was near to the apartment? I don't think CB can help himself he has to brag about himself to others. He bragged to a 'friend' in a pub that he snatched Madeleine. People say it is all bravado, yet he bragged he broke into apartments and his stash of passports etc was seen by his friend. So why dismiss his brag about snatching Madeleine? To say there was 'no change in behaviour' days after the event is just laughable. He's a Psychopath he wouldn't have any empathy.
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Post by honestbroker1 » Wed May 11, 2022 1:40 pm

Whiterose wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 10:45 am
MWT says - "They cannot place him outside Madeleine’s apartment on the day of the disappearance and furthermore he has a credible alibi which places him away from there. And there is evidence of non-changing behaviour.


So how come he told a girlfriend he was near to the apartment? I don't think CB can help himself he has to brag about himself to others. He bragged to a 'friend' in a pub that he snatched Madeleine. People say it is all bravado, yet he bragged he broke into apartments and his stash of passports etc was seen by his friend. So why dismiss his brag about snatching Madeleine? To say there was 'no change in behaviour' days after the event is just laughable. He's a Psychopath he wouldn't have any empathy.
Quite right, Whiterose

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... villa.html

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Whiterose wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 10:45 am
MWT says - "They cannot place him outside Madeleine’s apartment on the day of the disappearance and furthermore he has a credible alibi which places him away from there. And there is evidence of non-changing behaviour.


So how come he told a girlfriend he was near to the apartment? I don't think CB can help himself he has to brag about himself to others. He bragged to a 'friend' in a pub that he snatched Madeleine. People say it is all bravado, yet he bragged he broke into apartments and his stash of passports etc was seen by his friend. So why dismiss his brag about snatching Madeleine? To say there was 'no change in behaviour' days after the event is just laughable. He's a Psychopath he wouldn't have any empathy.
" And there is evidence of non-changing behaviour." is apparently from a 17 year old girl that he had a holiday fling with for a few days.

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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by sal » Wed May 11, 2022 8:30 pm

Is the witness credible?
Profiler and bestselling author Axel Petermann (69 "On behalf of the dead" ) knows the case of Maddie McCann. He worked for the criminal police in Bremen for almost four decades, including more than 35 years as a murder investigator.

Profiler Axel Petermann does not yet consider the statements made by Brückner's acquaintances as an alibi
Profiler Axel Petermann does not yet consider the statements made by Brückner's acquaintances as an alibi
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He to BILD: "How well can Brückner's acquaintances assess him? Can the witness determine the 'zero line' with Brückner in normal situations in order to notice changes in stressful situations: What was his choice of words, his tone of voice, his body language - is the witness able to recognize a change in behavior at all? Why were there evenings when you didn't always seem to see each other?"

And with regard to the police check: “Brückner may have reacted in a cool manner in the control situation because he is generally a 'cooled down' type and was not specifically checked as Christian Brückner. Of course you get nervous in such a situation, but many other people are checked during such a check. But if Brückner didn't have anything with him that could establish a connection between him and the deed, then that could also be why he remained calm. For me, the statement by Brückner's acquaintance is not yet to be seen as an alibi."
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Post by sal » Wed May 11, 2022 8:33 pm

Mark Williams-Thomas
@mwilliamsthomas
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I will be live tweeting during tonight’s
@5_News
9pm documentary . I will respond to as many questions as possible . Please make them about the programme - if they are just about the McCanns I will not respond - use hashtag #MadeleineMccann
Rogério Alves says claims made by Gonçalo Amaral are a 'waste of time'

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Post by jjbd » Wed May 11, 2022 8:39 pm

sal wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 8:33 pm
Mark Williams-Thomas
@mwilliamsthomas
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30m
I will be live tweeting during tonight’s
@5_News
9pm documentary . I will respond to as many questions as possible . Please make them about the programme - if they are just about the McCanns I will not respond - use hashtag #MadeleineMccann
Oh God - we all know the cesspit will be there in droves!

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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by sal » Wed May 11, 2022 10:22 pm

Jim Gamble
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@mwilliamsthomas
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@Stephen17166178
The purpose of the program ie, is it to debunk the case when we can’t possibly have all the information the German authorities, Portuguese or UK police have? Or is it to place the latest police ascertain in context? One is reasonable the other reckless.
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Post by honestbroker1 » Thu May 12, 2022 7:11 am

The websleuths site seems unimpressed with MWT's documentary:

Two responses
Well. I think it's safe to say the MWT was perhaps a little overhyped. :rolleyes:

What a nonsensical pile of deduction that was on the part of MWT. "CB said he was somewhere else", MWT says he can't disprove it because his alibi remembers naff all except she was in Portugal in May 2007 but sure, that'll do. Solid. Besides, CB was so open and honest with MWT by admitting he was dealing drugs on Barranco beach around May 2007, and MWT found a picture of his van there, so CB must be telling the truth about this detail and everything else. Yep. It's so obvious when you don't think about it.

Hey Mark, do you want to buy a bridge mate? I'll do you a great deal.
And someone else replied:

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Just a touch ! It was embarrassing at times. Didn’t see all of it but the only bit of new info ? I got was they found indecent photos of
a young girl and her mother at the box factory and that the images were also taken there .

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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by sal » Thu May 12, 2022 7:33 am

Rogério Alves says claims made by Gonçalo Amaral are a 'waste of time'

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Post by honestbroker1 » Thu May 12, 2022 7:44 am

And the suspect doesn’t claim an alibi.”
That's the sentence that stands out for me from that article.

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Post by honestbroker1 » Thu May 12, 2022 7:59 am

Neither The Telegraph nor The Times have made any mention, at least on line, of Williams Thomas' documentary.

Which, maybe, is a tacit indicator of what they thought of it?

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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by jjbd » Thu May 12, 2022 9:49 am

It was rubbish from beginning to end.

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Post by Pedro » Thu May 12, 2022 10:18 am

"It was rubbish from beginning to end.", that applies to Mr. Wolters and his unproven claims about the case.

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Re: German prisoner identified as suspect

Post by Pedro » Thu May 12, 2022 11:00 am

it is a bit strange that Mr. Wolters is so eager to comment (newspapers) about those who don´t share or don´t agree with his unproven theories, but never showed any credible evidence to OP Grange or to PJ about the case, contrary to feed speculation to increase his fame about the case.

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The prosecutor heading the probe into the German drifter suspected of Madeleine McCann’s murder insists he has no alibi.

Hans Christian Wolters defended his claim Christian Brueckner is behind the Brit girl’s 2007 disappearance.

It came after TV investigator Mark Williams-Thomas said he was convinced the convicted child s-e-x offender was innocent.

Mr Wolters, who is heading the case in Germany, said: “Because Mr Williams-Thomas doesn’t know the files we are not surprised by his opinion. It’s a fact that the suspect has no alibi.

“We found nobody who gives Christian B an alibi. And the suspect doesn’t claim an alibi.”
I know who I believe and it is apparent from the MWT documentary that MWT is wrong.

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Post by Pedro » Thu May 12, 2022 11:43 am

let´s be honest: I´m not saying that that could not have happened, but, so far, what we know is that the German prosecutor talks about it on newspapers, but he never showed any real evidence of his claims to police in England or the same about PJ, also we know that he lied about a certain letter which he never sent, so, why should I believe in his words, which I don´t, not without credible evidence, which he don´t have at all.

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Post by sal » Thu May 12, 2022 12:35 pm

Rogério Alves says claims made by Gonçalo Amaral are a 'waste of time'

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Post by Whiterose » Thu May 12, 2022 1:35 pm

Thanks sal. :s_thumbsup

Love to the McCann's who must be feeling a lot of pain today on Madeleine's birthday. Lets hope the finally get answers soon.
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Post by Whiterose » Thu May 12, 2022 1:37 pm

I din't think there was anything in that documentary last night, it wasn't proven that the girl was with CB on the 3rd of May, it just proved she was in Portugal at the time. What sickened me was the disclosure of photo's of abuse taken in that building, were there others with him? How did he get the children there? :s_sad
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